THE GREATS HONORS PROGRAM FAQ
Since our founding in A.D. 2000, we have aimed at providing our students with the very best-the most excellent education: the greatest books, materials, courses and teachers. This unique, online honors program, combining the Angelicum Academy’s Great Books Program and The Great Courses Plus™, completes that goal, and is, we believe, an unparalleled educational program.
At the University of Oxford and some other universities, the undergraduate course of study focused on the classics of ancient Greece and Rome is titled Literae Humaniores (human literature, concerned with human learning-the humanities). It consisted of detailed study contrasting the great works of classical civilization and their great heroes, philosophers, scholars, seers and sages with modern ones, so the course was colloquially called simply Greats.
The Angelicum Academy’s Honors Program combines the same “Greats”: the finest books by the greatest authors, in it’s Great Books Program, with the finest lectures taught by many of the world’s greatest teachers in The Great Courses Plus™.
In this Honors Program students will read the greatest books ever written, selected by scholar-editors led for decades by Britannica’s Great Books Editor-in-Chief, the late Dr. Mortimer J. Adler, and will be taught by many of the world’s finest teachers (selected to teach courses by The Great Courses™ online), who lecture at many of the world’s greatest universities and colleges. Greats Honors students will get access to their lectures via The Great Courses Plus™- an online service that contains over 300 courses produced by The Great Courses™, and will have the opportunity to discuss these with fellow students for two hours per week in live, Socratic discussions moderated by two of our experienced faculty moderators. It just does not get any better in terms of excellence of books, teachers, lectures and overall presentation including discussions and tutorials (see below).
In the early days the Oxford Greats encompassed mathematics and natural sciences, and theology (i.e. res divinae or Lit Div.) was also taught. Dr. Adler and the Great Books editors added to the Great Books reading list a number of works of the natural sciences and theology. We have followed Dr. Adler’s advice regarding use of the chronological ordering of the Great Books readings: “In choosing a set of readings for a sequence of seminars, no attention at all should be paid to the field of subject matter in which the materials fall. A haphazard chronological ordering of them is much better than any attempt to order the materials so that they cover themes or topics in a particular subject matter.” The Great Books readings (HERE) are discussed in the weekly, live, 2-hour, Great Books discussions, which have two faculty moderators and actively engage student participation in the discussions.
Additionally, Honors students will have ongoing opportunities to meet online, live with their Academy mentor (September-May) to discuss and ask questions about the Great Courses lectures they have watched, and with tutors expert in various subject areas, and with fellow students. The mentor will have the student’s papers and weekly test results available so that they can privately monitor the student’s academic progress, provide friendly support and direction, encourage students to develop their full potential, and so they can send monthly progress reports to students and parents. The tutorials take place live, online, sometimes with fellow students taking the same courses at the same time, and will also help ensure students do not fall behind and are given some individual help if needed. At the University of Oxford these meetings are called “tutorials,” at Cambridge they are called “supervisions.” Both terms convey something of their purpose, which treat of individual subjects in more detail than do mentors or in the interdisciplinary Great Books courses.
One benefit of the tutorial system is that students may receive direct feedback on their weekly work in a discussion setting. As a pedagogic model, the tutorial system has great value because it creates learning and assessment opportunities which are highly authentic and difficult to fake. This relieves parents and administrators of the difficulty of attempting to monitor and assess their student’s studies. An example of an Oxford tutorial (in this example with just one student –Oxford has multiple-student tutorials as well) may be viewed here.
The Great Courses Plus™ is a subscription video on demand service by The Great Courses™ – the leading global media brand for lifelong learning. With 300 courses of in-depth videos by the world’s greatest professors, students will always have something fascinating to learn about. The Greats Honors Program uses and assess about 30 of these courses in its program, however Greats students have access to all of them. There are never any commercials no matter how much students watch, and they can pause, rewind, fast forward or re-watch as often as they like.
What is the difference in the Greats Honors Program and the traditional, Academy Homeschool program?
The Academy homeschool program (HERE) begins at the nursery level and continues through the 12th grade, in the usual homeschool approach, offline,with some optional online courses. The Greats Honors Program is entirely online, and is not offered prior to the 9th grade level.
Our online Great Books Program (the required reading is of course done individually) is common to and part of both our Homeschool program and our Greats Honors program, 9th-12th grades and up. So apart from the Great Books Program, the difference is mainly about taking courses offline, or, online with lectures, assessments per lecture, individual mentors and tutorials, and monthly progress reports.
Many high-school-age students enroll in our online, Great Books Program, which is fully described on this website under the tab of that title. Though the Great Books Program is interdisciplinary (and the books include much literature, philosophy, theology, history and political science-often contained in the same book), they do not include specific, systematized courses in math, the natural sciences, English language arts, music, art, or foreign languages. To take those specific courses students may either enroll in our homeschool program which is not online, but is done at home, offline, in the usual homeschool manner (with some optional online courses available), or, now they may enroll in the Greats Honors Program, which provides all of those specific courses online. Both approaches offer all courses that are required for an Angelicum Academy diploma. Greats allows students to view specific online course lectures in categories of math, science, philosophy, history, English language arts, art, music and philosophy, theology, foreign languages. See curriculum chart HERE. The diploma for the Greats Honors program identifies the graduate as a Greats Honors Program graduate and is sealed with the Greats Honors Program seal:
9th -12th grades (age 14) and up. Do not let the fact that it includes some college-level lectures mislead you into thinking it is not for high-school-age students beginning in 9th grade–it is designed for them. Dr. Mortimer Adler long ago (beginning in the 1920’s) noted the decline in American education, and proposed a return to the study of the Great Books and the Socratic (conversational dialectic) method of studying them as two of the major parts of the remedy. He also noted, over many decades of observation and experiment, that teenagers, after the substantial completion of their education in the learning/liberal arts in elementary/primary school through 8th grade (learning reading, writing, speaking, listening, calculating, problem-solving, observing, measuring, estimating and exercising critical judgement), are thereafter able to use those skills to study and profit from the study of the greatest books and the great ideas contained in them. We have an extensive article on this point HERE. This clearly holds for excellent, well-prepared lectures, such as the Great Courses lectures, as well–lectures taught by enthusiastic, great teachers can obviously add much to a student’s learning experience. There is no point is reading books or listening to lectures that we fully understand and which do not stretch us intellectually.
The corollary in that it is a waste of the time and minds of teens not to expose them–not to familiarize and acquaint them–with the greatest works and most profound ideas. “Learning, neglected in youth, loses the past and is dead to the future” – Euripides.
Not at all – it’s the materials, the books, the lectures, the teachers, that need to be the best, in order to bring out the best in all of our students. The educational culture in which students are immersed strongly influences their subsequent intellectual growth and development. This was Dr. Adler’s point in the above quotation cited: the best education is not just best for some students, it is best for all students.
“In the early 1930s, University of Chicago President Robert Hutchins was asked whether Great Books seminars, then open only to a picked handful of students, should be accessible to all the students in our colleges. His brief reply was crisp and clear. He said that the Great Books seminars in our public schools and in our colleges should be open to all the students there, not only to the few who select them or are specially selected.” – Mortimer J.Adler
One benefit of the mentor/tutorial system is that students may receive direct feedback on their weekly work in a discussion setting. As a pedagogic model, the mentor/tutorial system has great value because it creates one-on-one learning and assessment opportunities which are highly authentic and difficult to fake. Each month the Greats Honors student’s mentor will email both the students and parents reports of the student’s progress including all lectures viewed and assessments submitted with results (i.e. usually grades). This relieves parents and administrators of the difficulty of attempting to monitor and assess their student’s studies. An example of an Oxford tutorial (in this example with just one student –Oxford has multiple-student tutorials as well) is linked at the end of the first FAQ.
May GHP students take the online quizzes and tests over again, and also resubmit papers, for potentially higher grades?
Yes. In fact we encourage students doing so, provided only that they establish a history of improvement in doing so. Students need to email the appropriate tutor to arrange a new quiz or test. Papers may be resubmitted without any permission needed.
Greats Honors Program students will each have an Academy faculty member assigned as a mentor, who will be available (September-May) to the individual student, via email or live, online, to answer questions about the program, courses, lectures or specific learning difficulties and to help them reach their educational goals. Parents are welcome to attend and participate in these. Because Greats Honors students have a broad array of courses they may take, some questions may be outside the area of expertise of their mentor. In those cases the mentor will arrange for consultation (again, via email or in a live, online classroom) between the student and a tutor, more expert in the area of interest (e.g., art, music, math, science, philosophy). The Academy has available faculty expert in nearly all relevant educational fields. Since on occasion more than one student may have the same or similar questions or difficulty, tutors may schedule more than one student for a tutorial to address that matter.
Academy mentors and tutors, in any area, are different faculty from the professors who teach and are recorded in The Great Courses™. Greats faculty, moderators, mentors and tutors are not the professors who recorded The Great Courses™.
This is a logical question, the answer to which we have given a good deal of thought and research. In addition to the truly excellent and concise Great Courses Plus ™ lectures by some of the world’s finest math and science teachers for each subject – they know these specific subjects and what students need to understand about them incredibly well and teach that with great enthusiasm and clarity–for each half hour lecture we offer either quizzes or tests, and we also have labs (both virtual and in-hand physical kits-students may chose either or both), together with reference to the online course Guidebooks prepared by each Professor giving the lectures. We also provide additional online resources such as direct links to, for example, the Khan Academy lectures, and similar resources that discuss the same or similar concepts from different perspectives, for assessing and strengthening our students’ understanding of the material, if needed. Our students may also watch the lectures a second or third time, or more, or parts of them, as needed–an advantage not available in schools.
Each course is carefully laid out in a course syllabus, with easy to navigate assignments and assessments on our Online Learning Center. Each course is self-paced, although we recommend a completion schedule. To complete each course in the recommended time of two semesters, students will watch 1-3 lectures per week per course for 28 weeks and complete the corresponding quizzes, practices and labs. There are typically 2-4 additional weeks set aside for midterms and finals, for a total of 30 weeks per academic year. Progress is reported monthly to students and parents.
If a student needs help understanding a concept from one of the lectures, they may ask their assigned Mentor, who will either help them or schedule an online tutorial session with one of our math and science Tutors, to meet online in one of our live classrooms to go over the specific topic and answer any questions or provide any help, resources or references, as needed.
Besides all of the above, because many students have used the Saxon math courses prior to joining the Greats Honors Program, with each lecture we provide references to the corresponding Saxon math chapters and exercises relating to each topic in our math courses, so that they may continue to use Saxon alongside the Greats Honors Program if they wish, for a greater measure of continuity or if they benefit from doing extra math problems. This is completely optional, but it may be helpful for some students.
Many colleges and universities now require that the science course include labs; how does the Greats Honors program address that requirement?
Students looking to receive lab credit for the science courses have two different options. They can either complete a set number of virtual labs, or, they can complete physical labs, using a physical lab kit. The virtual labs are free and accessible through links provided when students enroll in a course. The physical labs kits can be purchased in our Academy bookstore (link on our home page). Instructions for how to coordinate these labs with the courses will be provided when students enroll in the course.
Certainly. They may contact them by email any time with any questions or to arrange phone or internet time related to their studies. Normally this would be routed through the main Academy email address in case the mentor or tutor is not available for some reason. Extensive individualized tutoring can be arranged, for an agreed remuneration to the tutor.
Most high schools require about 5-6 hours of class time per day. It often includes considerable wasted time, but it takes a lot of time nonetheless: 25-30 hours or so of classroom time per week. If you view our curriculum charts HERE, you will observe that typical Greats students have about 6 hours of online, classroom time per week (including the weekly Great Books discussion and The Great Courses Plus™ lectures). Our curriculum works more like a college curriculum (particularly one with the tutorials, such as Oxford), with much less classroom time than high schools, and more time for independent reading and study.
In our experience at the Angelicum Academy–nearly two decades now–we have found that teens 14 and up are perfectly capable of such study, and in our nation’s history did so. Dr. Mortimer Adler’s experience over 80 years led him to conclude likewise (see Article on this point HERE).
To summarize: Greats students will be engaged in two-hours of Great Books discussions per week, plus an average of 8 lectures per week (usually ½ hour). That comes to 6 hours of online, weekly class time, plus the Great Book reading and occasional work on essays or quizzes. That is not an unreasonable load at all, for any teen, but it is a serious academic program of study, of the highest caliber using the very finest materials and teachers, meriting the name Honors program. It is neither too easy, and hence boring; nor too difficult, and hence discouraging.
Normally it takes four years to complete the whole Greats program as the Great Books component of the GHP is normally a four-year program. However, students not interested in taking or completing the whole program may take as little as one course, or one semester. Most students begin in 9th grade and complete the program in four years, however our oldest student was 87, and we have had students of nearly all ages, from about 40 countries, though the great majority are Americans homeschooling or in high school. A few students have taken two years of the Great Books Program simultaneously (e.g. Greeks and Romans, or Middle Ages and Moderns), in order to enable them to complete the program in three or even two years. However, that involves a very considerable amount of reading, study and commitment, so while we allow it we do not recommend it; it also loses some of the benefits of a chronological sequence of readings.
The Great Courses™ may be viewed at any time-24/7- as they are asynchronous (recorded), however we recommend students view them according to the schedule suggested on the curriculum chart, partly so that their mentors, who are available September-May, can keep track of their progress, answer their questions and help guide them to achieve their greatest benefit. However, if a student wishes to binge-watch a Great Courses Plus™ course in a single week or so, he or she is welcome to do so. The quizzes and tests prepared and graded by the Academy for the Great Courses Plus™ required in Greats will be posted in a student’s Online Learning Center (OLC) page after their enrollment, and may also be taken at any time or pace thereafter.
Please see the GHP curriculum charts #1 and #2 HERE.
Students enrolled in the Greats Honors Program may view any of The Great Courses Plus™ – there are over 300 courses offered at this time. However only a select few are required in the Greats Honors Program. Please see the GHP curriculum charts HERE to view the list of courses required for the Greats Honors Program diploma.
I am beyond 9th grade – may I still enroll in the Greats Honors Program, and will my other high school/homeschool courses transfer into it and satisfy the GHP diploma requirements?
Yes. Any educational level 9th and higher is fine, including adults, provided you complete the remaining portion of the Great Books Program (a minimum of one year), and take or have taken courses substantially equivalent to the required GHP courses,that are high school level or higher. However The Great Courses Plus™ may not be transferred in as merely watching the lectures does not provide any means of testing and assessing educational outcomes – those need to be taken within/while enrolled in the Greats Honors Program for that reason.
Of course. Just give us 72 hours notice to terminate the automated payments. After that, there are no further financial obligations. Any payments already received, or received in the 72 hour notice period, are nonrefundable.
If a student begins the Greats program, and for whatever reason decides not to complete some of it, that portion/course not completed will, of course, not be posted on their transcript. They may then wish to complete the study needed to earn an Angelicum Academy diploma in the Homeschool program, or they may move on to some other program, to which we will be happy to provide a transcript for any studies completed. When a student withdraws, once they notify the Academy (after 72 hours notice–email notification is fine), they have no further financial obligation–no more payments.
Ordinarily, no, unless you received permission to substitute courses you did complete. However, you may still qualify to earn the Academy Homeschool program diploma (see those requirements).
Yes. The Angelicum Academy requires 4 years of English, 4 of religion or theology, 3 of math, 3 of science and 3 of social studies. The Great Books Program satisfies the English and social studies requirements. The rest are satisfied by taking The Great Courses Plus™ courses required in those subjects.
May I enroll in just the Great Books Program, or in just The Great Courses Plus™ portion of the Greats Honors program?
Yes, however there would ordinarily be no reason to do so. However if a student wishes to take some course(s) offered offline in our Homeschool Program and in some course(s) online in our Greats program, enrollment in both would be necessary. That would be $250 per year for the Homeschool Program, and $95 (x 10 months) for the Greats, in addition to the cost of the Great Books track selected (see chart above).
May one take the live, online Latin and/or Greek and/or Spanish courses in substitution for the Latin 101 or Greek 101 course?
Yes. We encourage students to take our live courses whenever possible. We offer live Great Books, Ethics, Logic, Essay Writing & Composition, and Latin and Greek courses for grades 9-12.. In those cases it is usually also helpful (but not required) to watch The Great Courses Plus™ lectures in those subjects,to accompany the live courses, in which case there is no need to take the assessments (quizzes, tests) for those, since the live classes conduct their own tutoring and assessment. Full details at the Classical languages page HERE.
I notice that the Academy’s live Ethics and Socratic Logic courses are part of the Greats Honors Program. Are they included in the Greats Honors tuition?
Both The Great Courses Plus™ Ethics of Aristotle (12 lectures) and Introduction to Formal Logic (24 lectures), which are not live, are a part of the Greats Honors Program The Angelicum Academy does offer similar Ethics and Socratic Logic courses live, online. Greats Honors students may take these two courses either way – live or asynchronously. However the live Ethics and Socratic Logic courses –two of our most lively and popular – meet weekly (on Fridays) for one hour, September-May (30 classes each) and having live faculty online cost more to offer and so have an additional tuition charge, which may be viewed HERE. There is no additional tuition charge to take The Great Courses Plus™ Ethics of Aristotle and Introduction to Formal Logic courses. GHP students who enroll in the live Ethics and/or Socratic Logic courses may also view the Ethics of Aristotle and Introduction to Formal Logic courses without additional tuition for those recorded courses as they are part of the The Great Courses Plus™.
I notice that the Theology Online courses by Fr. Joseph Fessio are a part of the Greats Honors Program. Are they included in the Greats Honors tuition? Are the Didache religion courses included in the GHP tuition too?
The Didache religion courses are offered via My Catholic Faith Delivered (linked to from the Angelicum homepage – upper right) and cost from $29-40 for each course, paid when on their website – no book is needed.
I know the Great Books courses and Theology Online are available for college credit, are the Great Courses available for college credit?
At present, only the Great Books Program and the four Theology Online courses are available for a total of 60 college credits, which is about two years of college where the credits are fully accepted. The Angelicum Academy Great Books Program and Theology Online courses were reviewed and recommended for college credit by the American Council for Education (ACE CREDIT).
If I wish to join the Associate’s degree (A.A.) track to Holy Apostles College, how does that fit in with the Great Honors Program?
To earn their Associate’s degree by the completion of 12th grade, students in the Angelicum’s Great Books Program Associate’s degree track must complete a minimum of five courses with Holy Apostles College (“HACS”) online, with a total of 15 credits. These can be taken in 11th grade or higher, provided the student has a “C” or higher grade point average (GPA) since entering high and/or college-level studies. The required courses are detailed HERE28. In summary, the five Holy Apostle’s online courses required are:
PAS 161 Catechism Pillars I & II
PAS 162 Catechism Pillars III & IV
SCM 101 Mathematics among the Liberal Arts
SCM 201 Physics (Optional virtual physics lab SCM 202 – 1 credit)
SCM 220 Chemistry (Optional virtual chemistry lab SCM 221 – 1 credit)
Associates Degree track students, who take the five HACS courses listed above, would not be required to take the first two theology online courses ordinarily required in the Greats Honors Program, and they would also omit a semester of the math, chemistry and physics courses ordinarily required in the Greats Honors Program. In other words, there would be no duplication of courses required, and the HACS courses listed would all be accepted towards fulfilling the Greats Honors Program requirements. This is true for students pursuing the A.A. in Theology as well. Contact us for details.[Note relevant for A.A. track students only: Students who plan to (and do) complete two or more of the four Theology Online courses by Fr. Fessio, as a part of their A.A. track, prior to receiving their A.A. degree, will not be required to take the PAS 161 nor the PAS 162 Catechism Pillars courses listed above, as they are substantially equivalent courses. Rather, they will be required to take, in substitution thereof and at the same reduced tuition, two other HACS courses, specifically: ENG 171 Composition and English and SOC 275 Economics; If they complete only one of the Theology Online courses, then they would need to complete only one of the said two courses. Students who take the Theology Online Jesus of Nazareth and/or Liturgy course(s), will be required to complete either Revelation and Christology and the Creed Theology Online courses, or PAS I and PAS II, keeping in mind that they must complete 15 credits of Holy Apostles courses.]
Of the 120 credits part of the GHP, 60 were reviewed and recommended for college-level credit (those being the Great Books courses [48 credits] and the Theology Online courses [12 credits]) by the American Council for Education (ACE CREDIT), and are accepted for transfer credit–in varying amounts, from some to all credits– at various colleges and universities. The remaining courses-all The Great Courses Plus™- though taught by Professors, nearly all with Ph.D.s teaching at various prestigious colleges and universities (which institutions are themselves accredited), have not been recommended for college-credit. At the college level, Individual courses are not “accredited”, only degree-granting institutions are. Courses may be recommended for college credit, by institutions such as the American Council for Education (ACE CREDIT). To earn their bachelor’s degrees, our students eventually transfer to colleges and universities.
You may enroll HERE. If you have any questions or difficulties, just give us a call and we can take your information on the phone and enter it manually. Once you have enrolled, we will send you a password to access The Great Courses Plus™, which is included as part of your tuition (so you do not subscribe yourself – we do that for you). The user name is your email address, so please be sure and provide the correct one on the enrollment form. Your The Great Courses Plus™ membership subscription will be good for 12 months from the date of your Greats Honors Program enrollment.
As a Greats Honors Program student, you have a subscription to The Great Courses Plus™. This entitles you to a 50% discount off the regular price for the course lecture transcripts & Guidebook, and free shipping. The discounted price range is from $7.50 for both transcripts & Guidebook (for a 12-lecture course), to $ 37.50 (for an 84-lecture course). Transcripts & Guidebooks for courses with more than 12 lectures and less than 84 lectures would fall between those prices. Regular pricing without this discount would be double, so $30-$75 for both the transcript & Guidebook. Approximately 80% of The Great Courses Plus™ have both lecture transcripts and Guidebooks available.
• To order transcripts & Guidebooks, call 1-800-832-2412 and have your The Great Books Plus™ user name and password, and your credit card at hand.